Bombing in London? Attack ISM!

Israeli police are saying that the explosives used in the bombings in London are the same as the explosives used by two British citizens who committed a suicide bombing in Israel in 2003. 

Of course along with reporting that news, the right wing Israeli press can't help but mention the International Solidarity Movement - thereby tacitly implicating ISM with suicide bombings and the bombings in London.

Israel Insider writes,

The terror attack in London last week may be tied to a suicide bombing on Tel Aviv's beachfront in April 2003...The bombing was carried out by two terrorists, Asif Mohammed Hanif and Omar Khan Sharif, who were recruited by Hamas in Britain and affiliated with the International Solidarity Movement in Gaza, where they stayed before carried out the murder.

And Israel National News (the same source that last week made up the story about the settlers being "set up" during their stoning of a Palestinian youth) notes,

The two initially came through Gaza, where they were hosted by International Solidarity Movement (ISM) activists, until they made their way to Tel Aviv to carry out the attack.

What these sources conveniently leave out is that the bombers' "affiliation" or "hosting" with ISM amounted to their attendance at a public memorial service for Rachel Corrie in Rafah, Gaza, that was organized by ISM.  In fact, neither the government nor military of Israel have made such claims - instead stating there were indirect "links." 

Where do such lies come from?  Just another example of how those who loathe ISM or anyone who supports the Palestinians don't let pesky things like facts bog down their agenda. 

Comments

[Womble]

As I recall, the two were also hosted at the ISM rented flat in Tel-Aviv before the bombings. And arrived to the territories via the "Alternative Tourism Group" (you're an ISMer, you'll know).

Not to mention that there was a weapons stash discovered in at least one of the ISM offices in the territories. And terrorist harboring is also not uncommon (Shadi Sukiya comes to mind).

At the very least the ISM has become an easy vehicle for terrorists.

[adwred]

Just keep banging the drum... they're all terrorists, they're all terrorists... it'll drown out any legitimate discourse on the injustices of the occupation and current status of Palestinian territories and land.

"Terrorist harboring is common"... and how exactly has "ISM become an easy vehicle for terrorists?"

Gimme a break Senator McCarthy.

http://www.nathanielturner.com/londonbridgesfallingdown.htm

London Bridges Falling Down, Falling Down, Falling Down - and they deserve it

[Rocket Scientist]

Awdread and Scrotum - what pompous turds you are. You boys are banging your bananas...again. McCarthyism? What an idiot. Enjoy your fringe dwelling.Total joke. Got to laugh.

http://www.nathanielturner.com/londonbridgesfallingdown.htm

Oops posted wrong link last time, don't worry whities, you got it now. Let the brother teach you uncivilized cannibals.

[scott]

The link is right for both of them, it just extends outside of the column, but if you highlight it, you can get it all.

damn...you pull no punches. i recommend people check out the chickenbones site overall.

even in the context of imperialism and colonialism, i don't agree that killing random people on the way to work is justifiable. and it certainly wasn't just right-wing white britons on those trains. i think it's hard to speculate on the reasons for the attacks when it is not known who is responsible, and esp. if it is islamic fundamentalists - how are they any better than capitalist fundamentalists?

if the point of your piece is just to militantly put it in context, then i guess my comments don't really apply.

Innocent? How were they innocent? What column were you reading out of, Clarence Thomas's? There ain't no innocents in this bombing. Britain is the historical capital of imperialism, the perfection of all imperialism and now the kith and kin of the exploiters, the colonizers, racist "Genociders" as good ol' boy Dubya would put it in his improvised own little language, has come back in a minute fold upon their heads. After all of the blood the British spilled in Africa, India, the Americas, Australia, Palestine and other parts of Asia, who are they now to question their judgement? It is righteous retribution against the oppressors, albeit an infinitesimal one in contrast to the horrifying carnage they have wreaked for centuries across Africa.

Islamic fundamentalists are practicing the proprietry of their culture, and you're attempt to compare that to capitalist exploitation of nearly the entire non-white planet is grotesque. Sure, people of color were killed during the attacks on 9/11, probably a few in London too, but they live in the West at their own risk when they should advocate revolution or return to their homelands (except of course for Indigenous Americans).

There are no innocents in this game of chess, especially when all of those vehicles being destroyed only exist because of the stolen wealth of other continents. They stole all of it! And now they weep because they are given it back in little chunks? Everything belongs to people of color which they claim as theirs. If they want to continue holding the wealth of the Third World hostage, then I suggest that we let them keep the shrapnel.

[Madge Noon]

"As I recall, the two were also hosted at the ISM rented flat in Tel-Aviv before the bombings"

Hmm, they attended the 40 day memorial service for Rachel Corrie, which was not organised by ISM, but by the local community.

The idea that ISM would rent a flat in Tel Aviv is quite frankly ridiculous.

Think about it.

[Madge Noon]

"As I recall, the two were also hosted at the ISM rented flat in Tel-Aviv before the bombings"

Hmm, they attended the 40 day memorial service for Rachel Corrie, which was not organised by ISM, but by the local community.

The idea that ISM would rent a flat in Tel Aviv is quite frankly ridiculous.

Think about it.

[smitty]

Scott,

Some very sick people posting on this thread, glorying in the murder of working people and babbling demented racist crapola. Of course, you support them, even though you have some qualms.

[smitty]

"There are no innocents in this game of chess"

http://robots.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2005/london.bombing/victims.html

Check out the names and faces of the people you label"guilty". Ordinary working people, you moronic lowlife.

Ordinary working people, exactly what ordinary working people are you talking about? The racist, imperialist descendants of the world's most savage Empire, which killed 60 million in the Middle Passage and untold tens of millions in the Americas, as well as in India, China and Australia. These wretched white imperialists supported a government that is renewing its program of genocide against non-whites, and therefore are legitimate targets, and were so even if it wasn't, because, as I noted earlier, they have robbed Africa of its inheritance, of its natural resources and have supported dictatorships throughout the continent which have led to wars, such as the recent African World War (Referred to as the Congolese Civil War for those ignorant white bafoons who don't know anything), the Rwandan genocide, the massacres of Mobutu and other dictators, which have claimed millions in themselves as recently as just SEVERAL YEARS AGO, and arguably still, since that war in the Congo isn't really over yet.

Innocent? Where were the innocents. All I say were a bunch of lily white bastards who raped and robbed my people and in turn, were handed justice, if only in minute proportions.

Roughly several dozen dead measured against 100 MILLION? Doesn't sound the score is even quite yet.

A white man (Or woman possibly, obviously can't know the difference on the internet) has the nerve to summon the word "racist" in the context of a non-white delivering some truth? Non-whites cannot be racist, since racism requires power. I do not have the power to enslave or commit mass genocide against your guilty and decadent race, which surely has earned such a fate for its misdeeds. Racist? Hahahaha

Maybe that was a sarcastic joke that only white people recognize

[Womble]

"Non-whites cannot be racist, since racism requires power."

Oh no, my friend, racism is hatred, and hatred does not require power. All it requires is a twisted, distorted state of mind that you demonstrate right here, in your very post. It requires ability to declare innocent people as guilty because people with the same skin color have done something wrong at another place, at another time.

Oh, the poor little white imperialist is crying for the absolutely "massive" number of British dead. So many that the British are already sweeping them under the rug and casually brushing off the incident as their own personal collateral damage. To hell with the overrated values you place on your people. You aren't what matters since YOU aren't dying by the millions. There is only one way to avoid everlasting and eternal war and retribution from the united African peoples of the motherland, the Diaspora, Australia and the so-called "middle east", and that is repaying all that you have stolen, with interest.

No Justice, No Peace!
Free Leonard Peltier!
Free Mumia Abu-Jamal
Hands off Assatta Shakur!
Hands off Mugabe!
Reparations and Separation!

http://www.millionsmoremovement.com/about.htm

Marvin X

Not only has the sun set on the British empire but the sons of her colonial slaves are out to avenge their impoverished fathers and mothers. Yes, call them devils for their evil desires and actions to seek retribution for centuries of rape, mass murder, mutilation and simple genocide.

During the four centuries of European slavery, how many innocent men, women and children were crucified in the name of Jesus and capitalism? When they toiled in the sun of Africa, Asia and the Americas, were they not simple human beings whose only desire was to care for their families and loved ones--how often did they even bother to revolt against their enslavement for life?

But today the world appears utterly horrified that the descendants of colonialism have decided to seek vengeance in the name of their God and peoples, no matter what the moderates, the uncle toms and uncle abdullahs, think of their barbaric actions. Were not the Europeans barbaric in the Congo, South Africa, in Arabia and India, in the the Americas with their black codes and slave catchers, lynchings, raping of men, women and children?

Did the Europeans and their colonial collaborators ever think the day would come for justice to raise her hand and strike death blows into the hearts of the masters as they went about their daily round, eating, drinking, sporting, playing, working, praying?

The death angels don't care about any of these goings on. Throughout the centuries of your oppression in Africa, Arabia, India and the Americas, did you ever give the subject peoples a day of respite, a moment to wipe the sweat off their brow? You gave them nothing but more slavery, suffering and death. And as you have done, so shall it be done unto you.

Keep a stiff upper lip because you shall need it as your cities crumble for the death angels march with no mercy, a lesson they learned from you. The only difference is that you claim to value life but the death angels care nothing for life and there are no innocents in their world.

The moderates are mostly your puppets, your colonial administrators who have benefited from the enslavement of their people. What right to life do they deserve. Yes, those who worship the beast shall be destroyed with the beast. Your moderation is submission to continued enslavement and colonialism--even your feigned religiosity is reactionary poppycock. You are one billion Muslims, yet you cannot liberate Palestine. To hell with your prayers and your pilgrimage to Mecca. When you march to Jerusalem one billion strong, that is the day Islam shall be redeemed from the devil, yes, from you fake imams who preach mysticism while your people wallow in poverty, disease and ignorance.

You are glad to send your sons to Iraq as suicide bombers because it is better they fight the Crusaders than fight you and your reactionary regimes in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Sudan, and places where you have delivered your oil fields to the global bandits in exchange for liquor and European women.

[Womble]

Hands off Mugabe? That's funny. But I prefer the slogan from the T-shirt of a Zimbabwean guy I know from a certain internet forum: "Rob Mugabe- Before he robs you" ;)

[scott]

Yeah, Hands off Mugabe? So he can demolish the livelihoods of thousands more poor folks? So he can have another undemocratic election? All rulers are scum - even those who pretend they're socialists.

Marvin, I've got a question for you. It appears you live in the Bay Area. Therefore, according to your own analysis, it would be your own fault if you got blown up by a bomber on BART. That we shouldn't condemn such an action, but instead call it just and righteous. Am I correct about this? How do you reconcile all your rantings with this fact?

I'm anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, anti-racist, pro-reparations and so on - but I don't see how blowing up random people, even in the overdeveloped world, is a useful or appropriate means of struggle. Who are you to pass on a sentence of death to people just because they're white and British? Or even just British? Of course they are benefiting from stolen accumulated wealth, but for this they deserve to die?

Your broad, sweeping judgements and generalizations are merely a different version of the sweeping generalizations made by Bush and Blair. They are wrong and they do nothing to rectify the many just grievances you harbor.

You really think blowing up working class people is the way to stick it to the system? The correct way to avenge the millions dead and millions stolen? That's nonsense.

And you can attack me cause I'm a white kid writing this, but that is besides the point. If resistance becomes nothing but a different version of the evil we deplore, than where does that leave us? Looking forward to the next invective - though it'd be nice if we could have a less shrill discussion, even though I'm white.

[Barkovitch]

Looks like Scott's had his "Sista Souljah Moment".

This is Scott's most brilliant comment: "The correct way to avenge the millions dead and millions stolen? That's nonsense."

Oh wait, so this looney-toon isn't wrong in seeking REVENGE in the first place, he's just doing it the wrong way. Oh, I understand now. AVENGING people hundreds of years dead? That's perfectly rational. I mean, what doesn't make sense about seeking revenge for those who are dead who we have never known, against oppressors who are likewise, DEAD.

Hey, I've got an idea, I'm going to go grab me an M-16 and ride on down to Nigeria and shoot me a bucketload of African scum to avenge the hundreds of thousands murdered in the brutal occupation of Spain by the Arab/black African armies some 1,300 years ago (long before white-black slavery by the way). I mean, what doesn't make sense about that? I have French ancestors who were oppressed when they invaded France (though they were driven out quite speedily). So, it's my inherent right to kill these scum-sucking weasels and take my rightful inheritance of their asses.

As hard as it is to believe, this nut actually makes more sense than Scott, since he insanely believes that "avenging" the dead is logical, moral or even some bizarre birth-right of his in the first place, and thinks that killing is the logical way to do it. Scott thinks that avenging the dead is also logical, just not killing "the guilty", and like some lowly crab mutters, "Please master, I know I'm white, but I think I should just maybe have an opinion on this". I.e., Scott is the real fucking idiot. The other guy is just a nutcase and can't help it.

[Noreq]

If you look back in history you will see that all the people in the world have a legitimate gripe about how they were done wrong by someone else, starting with Adam and Eve. It's time people got over it and started to work together to make this the world that God wanted it to be. Killing innocent people just causes anger and does not solve the problem. As long as we have people running killing other people just to make a point, the point has been lost. When we look back at ANY of the atrocities that have been perpetrated on ANY group of people, we don't see a 'noble cause' we see a group of cowards picking on the innocent. It's time for you 'boys' to grow up and try something besides anger and violence to get the point across. Look at Muhatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Jesus Christ. They protested by non-violent means and accomplished alot of good. They are still remembered for the good they did. Who can name the suicide bombers from 9/11? We were all created the same by the same Maker. It's time we realized we are all the same, no matter what our skin color is or where we live. I'm sorry, but it's fools like you that give Humankind a bad name.

Robert Mugabe has struggled courageously to clean up Zimbabwe by removing white imperialists from the land and handing the land over to the poor. So your claim that he is "demolishing" them is simply a racist lie. More than a hundred thousand indigent people of Zimbabwe have been allotted their share of land and will prosper from it greatly in a few years once they have acquired the proper farming equipment (which was destroyed, sabotaged and/or STOLEN by white farmers leaving Zimbabwe) to do so. Mugabe rigged the election? What trash from a snobby white American who doesn't know a thing about Zimbabwe or it's elections. Even euro-centric political newsletters like Counterpunch, notorious for almost NEVER including a black voice in any of its "radical" discussions, has admitted that Mugabe won the election fairly:

http://raceandhistory.com/selfnews /viewnews.cgi?newsid1113605035,44490,.shtml (Mickey Z posted this on counterpunch, however that site seems to be down right so I'm linking to another site)

I have put a space before the "/" halfway through the first link, and a space before the "?" halfway through the second link to make sure they didn't run off the screen, so backspace on that when you copy and paste to your address box

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? context=viewArticle&code=20050506&articleId=160 (This was also posted at CP)

Observers from South Africa testified that the election went smoothly and encountered only a few, isolated incidents. Lying racists would have the world believe otherwise, and that is why the urgings of so-called bishops to "rise up" against Mugabe have produced absolutely nothing other than angry whispers among uncle toms infected with the mentality that they cannot survive without their white masters.

As for, Marvin, stop calling me that. I never said I was Marvin X. Why would I come here if I was he? He has much better things to do than entertain weasely little so-called "liberals" infected with a mentality of racism. I merely linked to his article to provide a brilliant analysis of justice being meted out against imperalists abroad. Naturally, you will take sides with your imperalist kin, since you are likewise guilty, and deserving of violent African retribution.

I am a slave, I was brought here against my will, deprived of my native lands (Africa). So if a bomber killed me in the United States it wouldn't be my fault, for I have no choice in living here. You however, the beneficiary of a timeless genocide and slave trade, do have a choice, and you choose to live here, on stolen land, instead of in your native Europe, so if you are killed, it IS your fault. I, however, am a hostage. And while speaking of stolen land, I would direct you to the wisdom of my Native-American brother, Ward Churchill, who pointed out that even he, in taking a job from the federal government, is subject to the penalties of that position by so-called "terrorists", though I am not employed by the government, and am, therefore, not.

[Womble]

A hostage? Is someone keeping you in the US against your will? Are you deprived of freedom to emigrate to your "native" Africa?

Give us all a break. You may be able to sell some of your feverish fantasies to Scott here, but even he won't buy that one.

Nothing I have said is a "fantasy". It wasn't a fantasy what Europe did to Africa, Asia, the Americas or Australia. It isn't a fantasy that French troops have martyred hundreds in the Ivory Coast to protect their imperialist enterprises, nor that the colonial masters are now trying to starve an already impoverished Zimbabwe with additional sanctions, nor that it sets Pakistan and India, brothers of the same blood, against one another by selling fighters to a military dictator, nor that China is being encircled by the U.S. from sellout Taiwan, to imperalist Japan, puppet South Korea, Mongolia and central Asia, ringed by military bases in preparation for a Chinese holocaust, nor that the criminal so-called America is operating a criminal-industrial complex that enslaves millions of Africans, nor that the white man still grinds his boot into the black man's neck in South Africa, as the wealth is clearly all located in white districts. It is not a fantasy now that Africa is waking up to its destiny and expelling its colonial masters from the continent and counterattacking.

That is not a fantasy. What happened in London was not a fantasy. That was justice, and justice is quickly becoming a reality.

One Unified African People
One Unified Socialist Africa

[bugger off]

why cant we see the video