Aww...poor me

I just got my tonsils out yesterday and am not in much of a blogging mood.  So I will likely be absent until I hurt less and can think more clearly.  Though I'll probably be lurking in the comments.  Have a nice weekend everyone.

Comments

[Steve]

Hope you get well soon Scott.

Israel Shamir always says that the Jews-only state in Palestine is tied to the Judeo-fascist regime in the U.S. by an umbilical cord. Nothing, absolutely nothing, will ever happen in the Jews-only state until something is done about Judeo-fascism in the U.S. See Fiesta of St. Fermin

American democracy has imploded into a vote between Zionist A and Zionist B.

The Bush-Kerry presidential debate:

George W. Bush: “A free Iraq will be an ally in the war on terror, and that’s essential. A free Iraq will set a powerful example in the part of the world that is desperate for freedom. A free Iraq will help secure Israel. A free Iraq will enforce the hopes and aspirations of the reformers in places like Iran. A free Iraq is essential for the security of this country.”

John Kerry: “Soldiers know over there that this isn’t being done right yet. I’m going to get it right for those soldiers, because it’s important to Israel, it’s important to America, it’s important to the world, it’s important to the fight on terror.”

This democratic collapse is in turn driven by Jewish media control, a fact that single handedly redefines America as a Judeo-fascist regime. Media control and democracy cannot co-exist under any circumstances:

"Four of the largest five entertainment giants are now run or owned by Jews. Murdoch's News Corp (at number four) is the only gentile holdout -- however Rupert is as pro-Israel as any Jew, probably more so."
Los Angeles Jewish Times, 'Yes, Virginia, Jews Do Control the Media,' Oct. 29-Nov. 11, 1999 p. 14

"Time-Warner, Disney, Viacom-CBS, News Corporation and Universal rule the entertainment world in a way that the old Hollywood studio chiefs only dreamed of. And, after all the deals and buyouts, four of the five are run by Jews. We're back to where we started, bigger than ever."
Jewish Week, 9-17-99, 12

"The greatest concentration of Jews, however, is at the producer level -- and it is the producers who decide which stories will go on the air, and how long, and in what order, they will run. In 1982, before a shift in assignments, the executive producers of all three evening newscasts were Jewish, as were the executive producers of CBS's 60 Minutes and ABC's 20/20. And Jews are almost equally prominent at the 'senior producer' and 'broadcast producer' levels as well as in senior management. When Reuven Frank stepped down as president of NBC News in 1984, for example, he was replaced by Laurence Grossman, who left the presidency of PBS to take the position."
Charles Silberman, A Certain People. American Jews and Their Lives Today, Summit Books, 1985, p. 154

Judeo-fascism is not a recent development. This hidden ruling elite has been intimidating sitting presidents into behaving like frightened children for quite some time now:

"This [Jewish media] stranglehold has got to be broken, or the country's going down the drain," Graham declares. "You believe that?" Nixon says. "Yes, sir," answers Graham. "Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that, but I believe it."
Nixon-Graham tapes (1972)

[Opeth]

I hope you'll feel better Scott.

Steve, spoken like a true lunatic.
Anyway, whether or not Jews control the media, I'd say it's working in your favour, because the media is as anti-Israel as it gets (except for Fox maybe).

Unless you've got something against Jews in general, I see no reason why you should be bothered even if they were controlling the media. Because the media is obviously on your team.

[bernarda]

Quite right Steve. Opeth is an Israeli who has only learned the official zionist myths in Israeli schools. It is no wonder he/she does not know anything about history or politics. If there were any anti-Israel information in major American media, terrorist Israel would be up the creek. Americans would soon object to subsidizing Israeli terrorism to the tune of billions of dollars per year.

But it is also in academia that zionist Israel-first lobby dominates. The most recent case is the refusal of Yale University to hire professor Juan Cole because of opposition from the racist Israel-firsters.

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20060703&s=weiss

This was due in part to the judeo-fascist Campus Watch group. It is well-known for its intellectual terrorism on U.S. campuses.

If you want to read Cole directly, this is his blog.

http://www.juancole.com/2004/09/aipac-blitz-on-capitol-hill-way-in.html

[Steve]

Opeth, spoken like a true Zionist shill. FYI the quotes are from presidential candidates and Jewish media organs. I'll add that we didn't know jack about what you were doing to the Palestinians until the internet. However, the greatest damage is caused by the media coverup up of 9/11.

Bernarda, yes these Judeo-fascist neo-McCarthyite tactics involving blacklists and intimidation are also well documented in the Walt and Mearsheimer report.

We need laws against political harrassment and persecution. Plus, as Israel Shamir proposes, we need to democratize the media with an affirmative action plan that gives everyone a say.

[Opeth]

"Opeth, spoken like a true Zionist shill. FYI the quotes are from presidential candidates and Jewish media organs."

FYI I can't seem to find where I denied that. Cut the strawman arguements, Steve-o.
All I said was that whether your laughable paranoia is justified or not, it wouldn't do a thing to harm you.

"I'll add that we didn't know jack about what you were doing to the Palestinians until the internet."

Show me just one thing that you've seen on the internet that hasn't showed up on the news.

"However, the greatest damage is caused by the media coverup up of 9/11."

So the greatest dammage caused is a fictional concpiracy? not bad.

Your talk points are amusing. Liberal concpiracy bullshit doesn't apply as valid arguements.
So until you find the "Judeo-Zionazi" who you'd like to believe is your enemy (while the Muslim-Peace-lover is stabbing you directly in your eye), sit down and continue to blow smoke.

[Opeth]

I didn't phrase that last sentence correctly:
So until you find the "Judeo-Zionazi" who you'd like to believe is your enemy (while the Muslim-Peace-lover is stabbing you directly in your eye), and get him to say that he is behind 9/11, sit down and continue to blow smoke.

I'd also like to add a few comments upon my previous post:

It seems odd to me that in this world of "Jewish controlled media", the only place where I can find anything positive about Israel is JPost.
Could you satisfy my curiousity by linking me to a pro-Israeli news item from any of the mainstream American news outlets?

The media is obviously biased and pro-Islam, as can be seen by the anti-American reporting on the Iraq war.

The concipracy game can be played by both sides. In fact, I can whip out a quick concpiracy just now for the sake of the argument, but unlike you, I don't need to resort to lies to get my point across.

If you want to talk about religious bias, I'd like you to hear what you have to say about CAIR who lately has been on a law-suit campaign against bloggers who dare say anything bad about Islam.
CAIR is Islam's mouthpiece against the infidel, and denies many people's right of free speech, but that doesn't seem to bother you at all.

Here are 11 points on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that I would like to see you comment on:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=7856#c0019

Good luck.

[Steve]

I can't believe you are actually pursuing this absurd notion that the media is anti-Israel. I didn't respond to it earlier because I thought you were flailing in desperation. The media's pro-Israel bias is well documented and beyond dispute:

Off the charts: Network news coverage of Israeli and Palestinian deaths

As for your link: First you comment on the hard facts described in the 9/11 link in an intelligent manner, and AFTER you do that I'll look at your little green balls link.

As for your comments on pro-muslim bias: You're simply delusional. Ever since 9/11 the media has been screeching anti-muslim paranoia 24/24. Get a grip already.

[sappho]

Hope you feel better soon!
Hey, at least you dont need your voice to blog!!

[Opeth]

I followed your link regarding the media bias.

After going through the suspicious chart (they don't even provide the incidents which they reffer to in their statistics) I've learned that this was more disgustingly biased than the media.
The body toll of the Palestinians which they provide in their statistics hugely consists of terrorists (they don't bother to even mention it), while the Israeli bodycount provided consists of almost 100% civillians - nearly no soldiers.

Going through the rest of the site to verify my concerns, I've noticed one chart that stands out in the mist: A chart that compares Palestinian and Israeli demolished homes.
The number on the Israeli side stands at 0, yet somehow, every couple of days a qassam (aka "flying piece of metal") makes it's way into another Israeli home and demolishes it completly.
So much for any credibility from that site.

Please, I didn't ask you to provide more bullshit and bias, my question was simple - can you provide an internet news item (a proven one) that hasn't showed up on the mainstream American news or can you not?

"As for your link: First you comment on the hard facts described in the 9/11 link in an intelligent manner, and AFTER you do that I'll look at your little green balls link."

Hard facts? oh oh, five Israelis were cought filming the explosions (and to weaken your claim on pro-Israeli bias on American and Israeli news, these men have been reported commonly on the news).

If you want to talk about hard facts, tell me about the thousands of Palestinians and other Muslims dancing in the streets and giving out candy right after the 9/11 attack (And also explain to me why these images have nearly dissapeared from the internet and it took right wing blogs to preserve them? Does this sort of internet censorship bother you, or is free speech only for elites?).

If you want to talk about hard facts, tell me about the terror organiztion who took responsibility for the act.
Or maybe the Jooos payed Al Qaeda too?

You're not intersted in hard facts, not ones that condradict your whacko concpiracy theories. At the end of things, you'll still believe what you want to believe and so will I, but at least I've got the truth to back me up, while you only have hatred.

Now, in an intelligent manner, feel free to reply to the Little Green Footballs post.

[Womble]

Aww, little Stevie is bothered by the "concentration of Jews" in the media, in the US and presumably in the universe, and bernarda is singing in unison with him. Take note, Scott, take note. This is the crowd you are attracting- and there's a reason why they flock to your blog.

[bernarda]

Steve, it is pretty useless to try to convince opeth of zionist crimes. I have given many links in previous forums and opeth seems not to have read them. You know, links to Norman Finkelstein and Ralph Shoenman and other well-known "anti-semites".

As to control of the media.

"First it was Roger Ailes, the chairman of the Fox News Channel, who advised the US President to take the "harshest measures possible" against those who attacked America on 11 September, 2001.

Let us forget, for a moment, that Fox News's Jerusalem bureau chief is Uri Dan, a friend of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and the author of the preface of the new edition of Sharon's autobiography, which includes a revolting account of the Sabra and Chatila massacre of 1,700 Palestinian civilians and Sharon's innocence in this slaughter. Then Ted Koppel, one of America's leading news anchormen, announced that it may be a journalist's duty not to reveal events until the military want them revealed in a new war against Iraq."

"In Canada, the situation is even worse. Canwest, owned by Israel Asper, owns over 130 newspapers in Canada, including 14 city dailies and one of the country's largest papers, the National Post. His "journalists" have attacked colleagues who have deviated from Mr Asper's pro-Israel editorials. As Index on Censorship reported, Bill Marsden, an investigative reporter for the Montreal Gazette has been monitoring Canwest's interference with its own papers. "They do not want any criticism of Israel," he wrote. "We do not run in our newspaper op-ed pieces that express criticism of Israel and what it is doing in the Middle East..." "

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=390

Robert Fisk is the well-known Mid-East correspondant for the Independent newspaper in Britain.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/

[Womble]

Robert Fisk is the well-known nutty defender of every piece of scum out there, including Bin Laden (who apparently considers him "neutral", hehehe).

Oh and bernarda, I don't know who Ralph Shoenman is, nor do I care to know, but Finkelstein is a darling of the German neo-Nazi right. As for Israel Shamir, whom Steve here attempted to reference, he is an even more interesting figure and an ACTUAL neo-Nazi. He was decried as an anti-Semite even BY THE PRO-PALESTINIAN ARAB ACTIVISTS- and that's saying something.

[senatortombstone]

hi

[bernarda]

I love ignorant zionist propagandists like womble. They never refer to the facts. They never counter the arguments, but immediately resort to ad hominem.

"I don't know,nor do I care". Exactly. Typical of judeo-fascism.

Anyone else can look up what Finkelstein and the others have to say and decide for themselves.

[bernarda]

At C-span you can find an interview with Mearsheimer.

http://www.c-span.org/videoarchives.asp?CatCodePairs=Series,WJE&ArchiveDays=30

You can also find the program with judeo-fascist Abe Foxman defending Israel. Foxman is a typical zionist traitor. It is hard to count the number of lies he puts out.

[Opeth]

The Foxman link doesn't work, but I can safely assume that by "lies" you mean anything that counters your agenda.

Zionist comitee out.

[scott]

Hey Opeth, any more racist shit like the comment in the Arab rap post and you're done. Thanks for revealing more of your nauseating views than normal. (Don't try to find it folks, it's been removed.)

Anti-racist committee out.

[Steve]

Opeth you really are quite something. So you dismiss the difference in reporting of Israeli and Palestinian deaths because "the Palestinians which they provide in their statistics hugely consists of terrorists" and you go on to condemn the entire report because it fails to equate a chipping on a wall to a bulldozer in the living room.

I don't know what to say, I'm just stunned. Your response is such a classic I'll save it in case I'm ever asked to define chutzpah.

You ask, "can you provide an internet news item (a proven one) that hasn't showed up on the mainstream American news or can you not?"

Sure I can, just check this link.

On October 13, 2001, two mossad agents were caught in the Mexican Congress armed with explosives and carrying Pakistani (i.e. muslim) passports. That's exactly one month after 9/11 and quite relevant to a nation recovering from a terrorist attack. How many times was this mentioned by mainstream media? Zero.

You then ask, "If you want to talk about hard facts, tell me about the thousands of Palestinians and other Muslims dancing in the streets and giving out candy right after the 9/11 attack"

Sure, I'll tell you all about it:

"German reporters of the prestigious “Panorama” TV magazine investigated how the scenes were shot. What they found out was amazing. On German TV they aired, supposedly for the first time, parts of the entire 4-minute footage not previously shown.

It became clear that a person was animating a couple of children to cheer in front of the camera. The woman cheering was offered a candy to act cheerful. She later said she was shocked that her pictures were shown in the context of the terrorist attacks. She had no idea what they were for. A total view of the scene shows a street largely full of at best apathic people doing business as usual. Only a handful of people standing in front of the camera are celebrating."

Source link.

You then add, "And also explain to me why these images have nearly dissapeared from the internet and it took right wing blogs to preserve them?"

Hmmm.. perhaps it might be connected to the fact that German TV and the newsmagazine Spiegel have proven it to be a case of blood libel against Palestinian children?

And then you ask: "tell me about the terror organiztion who took responsibility for the act."

Sure, the arch-Zionist Larry Silverstein publicly confessed. You didn't know?

Building 7 of the World Trade Center complex collapsed on September 11, 2001 without being hit by an airplane or other debris. FEMA was unable to conclusively state why it collapsed. But then, in September of 2002, owner/builder Larry Silverstein discussed the collapse of Building 7 in a PBS Documentary called America Rebuilds. This is what he had to say:

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

Watch Larry Silverstein say it here:

http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/pullit/pullIt.wmv

Source Link.

You then add, "Or maybe the Jooos payed Al Qaeda too?"

There is no evidence Al-Qaeda was involved:

According to the FBI: "In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11.”

Source link

And then finally, "Now, in an intelligent manner, feel free to reply to the Little Green Footballs post."

Excuse me but "Hard facts? oh oh, five Israelis were cought filming the explosions" hardly qualifies as an intelligent answer does it? Particularly since the link deals with several issues besides that one.

[Opeth]

For the good folks of the blog, please let me explain to you what Scott the Anti-racist conciders nauseating:

I've improvised some quick rap lyrics for the "Btuosm al Rap" post that has been brought up today, only it was written as the Palestinian point of view. I'll specify as much as I can without actually repeating the lyrics:

The first paragraph dealt with the wall, and how it's there to stop suicide bombings.

Second paragraph dealt with checkpoints, same deal as the first.

The third paragrpah was about Israel bombing homes - homes where terrorists are hiding.

The fourth and last paragraph, the closest one the being racist yet so far away from it - was about "honor" killings.
While it might be insulting, it's the reality. Plain and simple.
I didn't make up a single word there.

I also have no doubt that a simillar parody critisizing Israel wouldn't be treated so harshly by you Scott, now would it?

You know damn well that if it was racist, Scott would have left the post there for the world to see.

If anyone is intersted, leave your email and I will send you the contents of the post. Judge for yourselves.

[Opeth]

Pffft Steve.
I was 1/4 way through replying to your latest post, when I suddently realized: you're setting me conditions that I have to follow in order for you to reply to my message.

Typical lefty tactics. You ignore my arguments and act like I have to earn your reply.

Think again. I don't give a flying crap about your opinion. I can't believe I almost fell for it.

Write your reply on the LGF post and then I'll reply on yours.

[bernarda]

opeth, "You ignore my arguments and act like I have to earn your reply."

opeth has consistently ignored my arguments and refused to comment on the links that I have given refuting Israeli/zionist myths. So that statement is really rich coming from opeth.

I just tried the link to C-span that I posted and it worked. Just copy/paste. If there is any problem, go to C-span video archives and search the names.

One thing you get from reading opeth's post is an understanding of the Israeli school system which seems successful at producing H-jugend. opeth seems to be in a hurry to get into the IDF and go to the West Bank to bang some Palestinian heads.

[Opeth]

Woah Bern, a little cranky today, are we?

I'll check out the C-span link later on.

Now, can you back up your claims about the Israeli school systems? How about the ones about me wanting to "bang some Palestinian heads"?
This is pretty pretty rich coming from a person who's favourite counter argument is accusing everyone of ad hominem attacks.

I have absolutely no desire to fight anyone. I will most likely be a programmer in the IDF.

The thing I've noticed about you folks is that you make a lot of assumptions - about Israeli schools, about the mindset of an avarage Israeli teenager etc...
I'd just love to see you actually spend a day here and watch your faces turn red from embrarracment.

You think you know the hidden truth about everything, but you're afraid to stare at the truth that stands directly in front of you.

You will lift mountains to find the next concpiracy that satifies your agenda, but you'll completly ignore the obvious truth we are facing nowadays because it doesn't go hand in hand with your twisted beliefs.

But what is your agenda? I'm really not sure. You claim to be Jewish as a counter to me once accusing you of antisemitism.
Although there is no contradiction between the two (ever heard of the term 'self loathing'?), I'll let that argument fly.

So please, tell me. What is the reason for your anti-zionism?
Are you feeling sorry for the poor Palestinians who refuse to achieve their goal by any means other than terror?
Or maybe you are just turned down by the idea of Jews having their own homeland, so they don't "poison" your media and unleash their world domination scheme? Makes no sense.
Perhaps you are just arguing for the sake of the argument because you're bored?

Tell me, Bern. I'd really like to know.
Also tell me the solution that you find feat for the ever-lasting conflict.

I imagine you would suggest retreating to the 67 borders?
I don't think that would work, see - they've once had even more than that piece of land, yet they still kept fighting us for the very last inch.

Any other ideas?

[Opeth]

My own and other Israeli's agenda, is, by the way, living in peace in this country.

I wouldn't mind the two state solution. I don't believe that it would work for various reasons, but I'd like to.

I enjoy going to arab-Israeli towns and eat falafel's there. The people are nice and we get along well.
I wish it would work the same in the territories, but since Palestinians are being brainwashed with hatred starting at age 0, it isn't seemingly possible (you make these false accustions about our schools, but ignore the well known teaching of hatred conducted in Palestinian schools).

Israel has always looked for opprotunities to end the conflict. The Gaza pullout was not a sign of weakness from our side, as the Palestinians took it. It was a gesture meant to promote peace.
A gesture used by terrorists to continue the armed struggle.

The suffering of the Palestinian people will only end once they realize that there's another way. Once they realize that over the 50 years of terrorism, their condition got only worse.

My agenda is a peaceful one, can the same be said about yours?.

[bernarda]

This is what I mean by indoctination in Israeli schools. The Israelis have Never looked to end the conflict except on their terms allowing them to seize as much Palestinian land as they like.

Every jewish settler in the West Bank and Golan is a criminal. So is every Israeli soldier there(and those who do the logistics for them). Since WWII, "I was just follo;wing orders" is no longer a defense.

Terrorism was brought to Palestine by the jewish invaders who organized terrorist groups like Haganah and Betar. The only ones who are responsible for the "suffering of the Palestinian people" are Israeli jews like you. If you had't invaded and stolen their land, they certainly would be suffering much less.

My solution? Expel all jews whose families were not in Palestine at the time of the first census done by the British in 1920. All those that arrived after are illegal squatters.

"You claim to be Jewish" When did I do that? In any case, being jewish or not does not change the validity of the arguments in any way. Asking the question of someone reveals a racist attitude.

[Opeth]

Your last post pretty much sums up my initial concerns about you. You don't even try to think of a solution for the future because your mind is as it is overflown with hatred for the present.
You have no constructive thoughts beyond blind hatred.

You say that every living Jew in Israel is a criminal, but you disgregard United Nations law. Any piece of land taken from the Palestinians beyond what was initially was granted to us, is a result of their ongoing wars.

So your solution is to expell all the Jews out of Israel, knowing in advance there is no place for them to go without being hated by people like you. Eventually, this "solution" would mean sending the Jews to the sea.

It's people like Bernarda that I move to the other side of the road to avoid.
Not because of their different views, which every human has a right to have, just because they lack certain qualities that make a human. I piss in your general direction.

Scott, yesterday you called me a racist.
I think you're still a little naive in your understanding of the situation, but you told me to think once. I have.
Now you need to take a moment and seriusly think what pieces of scumm you have siding you.

Compare my solution to Bernarda's. Take time and think about it all.
Who is looking for peace and who is a repulsive hate monger?