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October 12, 2006

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That is seriously hard core. Racist groups should be called out on their idiotic activities and the actions of the Gilchrist dude just proves that they really don't have anything solid to stand on :P

Tactically the Columbia protest was a step backwards for immigrant rights. If the minutemen were truely a paramilitary organization I wouldn't oppose the protest. However they're not. There just some dumbell right wingers who hold an occasional protest and get some media attention. Since the PC left is so ineffective, they zero in on easy targets. In reality this doesn't do jack to advance the interests of immigrants or the working class as a whole.

Here's liberal reporter (and former translator of Salvador Allende) Marc Cooper take on what the minutemen are covering their media-hyped border protest:

Call them militias or vigilantes if you like but that sort of obscures the point. Yes, some will be carrying guns (legally here in Arizona) and that always presents a certain danger. But these are overwhelmingly weekend warriors who are going to spend most of their time sitting in lawn chairs and yakking to each other on handie-talkies. They are to real vigilantes (who would have to go out and take some real risks including having someone shoot back at them) what the Disneyland Jungle Boat Cruise is to Amazon Exploration.

Also, I hate to be a stickler about these things, but the First Amendment applies to these pseudo-militias as much as it does to the counter-protestors who will also be here tomorrow.

The best way to combat this nativist populism is not by calling them names or asking some or another government authority to ban their gatherings. Rather, they can be defeated only by the assertion of some real political leadership on the immigration issue.


I don't think this protest was detrimental at all - in fact I think it was inspiring and an important action for anti-racists to draw on.

To address your points: The First Amendment only covers the government interferring in the speech of its citizens. The gov't did not intefer, hence no ones First Amendment rights were violated. Also, the event didn't have to shut down just because some people took the stage - Gilchrist chose to flee instead of waiting for the disruption to end. And I think it is important to note that these vigilantes talked for 45 minutes before the stage was taken.

As for the Minutemen being laughable idiots we don't need to pay attention to - I wish that were the case. They are most certainly a small movement with a fair share of yahoos, but that's not the whole story. Their ideology and arguments extend far beyond their numbers. Their violent, anti-human cause has been adopted by much more powerful individuals - such as Arnold Schwarzenegger, James Sensenbrenner, Bill Frist, etc. Extreme, anti-immigrants bills are being passed in Congress in large part because of the actions of the Minutemen and those like them.

So it is a mistake to dismiss them so easily. Instead, they must be countered wherever they may go.

Thanks for posting this great news!

I would have to disagree with DryDock, though.
The protesters at the University were not taking away Gilchrist & the Minutemen's free speech, whatsoever. Unfurling an anti-racism banner & chanting on stage is not my idea of violent, nor was it meant to keep Gilchrist from speaking. It was, though, a way for the students to express their anger at not only the racist group, but their school for hosting such a group. The group on campus that invited the Minutemen to speak were a Republican group, hardly representing the majority of students.
In fact, the only violence I seen, was from a Minuteman who punked-kicked a student square in the face/head!
If you listened to the interview/debate that Democracy Now! hosted between Gilchrist and Garcia, Gilchrist ripped off his microphone, & stomped off like a little bitch when confronted with the question, "What about your ties to National Alliance"! He had the perfect opprotunity to debate the opposition and get his view across, yet scurried away once again when asked the tough questions about his racism. Same 'ol, same 'ol!

The Minutemen/SOS are very laughable, yet they are becoming increasingly violent not only at protests, but at the border as well.
Just recently, a member of the San Diego-based Minutemen pepper sprayed the oppostion not once, but 2-3 times at a protest in National City, Ca. for doing nothing.
At the border, members of the Minutemen/SOS have been openly saying that they wish they could shoot to kill immigrants who cross the border. On their website forums, this talk is rampant, & very racist in nature.
In fact, bodies have been found in the desert near the border of migrant crossers shot to death.
They may have once been legitimate anti-illegal immigrant groups, but they have spawned into racist, anti-Mexican groups. They could have very well been this all along, we just now see the truth.
I agree with Scott. This protest did not hinder the pro-immigration movement. It for one, inspired me to continue my fight against these groups. Plus, if you remember the May 1st marches---we are many, & able to organize in massive amounts for the cause.

Thanks for responding. Here's my counterargument.

This action's main accomplishment is that it allowed the minutemen to get a rather sympathetic platform on national media to air their noxious point of view. I just don't find it all that inspiring.

I have no inherent objection if you counterprotest or even get in the minutemen's face On the border, it makes sense. At a day laborer area, it makes sense. On an affluent college campus, however when overwrought college radicals take the bait, right wingers love it because they get to fake that they're being oppressed by the left.

My position on what should be done to advance immigrant rights is this: The American working class (of all races) needs to be persuaded that siding with immigrant rights is in their interest. We do this by making alliances: CLASS alliances across ethnic/race lines. We don't do this by trying to guilt tripping white workers with a bunch of shit about how privileged they are.


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Drydock: Point taken. I understand where you are coming from, and agree with you on many points.
I think the protesting students were filled with passion, anger, & disgust. Rightfully so. Oftentimes, groups like the Minutemen, feed off this negative image & run with it for their advantage. They are an opprotunistic group that has no qualms about lowering themselves in that capacity. WE, as the opposition, need to remember this. I agree with you, that to fuel this may be sprinkling fuel onto the fire. But when emotions are so high, & racism is at play, I understand why it would be hard to remain composure.

spin

Here's liberal reporter (and former translator of Salvador Allende) Marc Cooper take on what the minutemen are covering their media-hyped border protest:

Mark Cooper is no liberal. He's a paid operative of "Pajamas Media" (ie AIPAC).

Think "Alan Comes" in print.

Free speech for me, but not for thee.

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